Journalist Bob Woodward played the recording on NBC’s Today show ahead of the Tuesday publication of his book “Rage”, which is based on 18 taped interviews with Trump.

In the latest snippet of recordings to be released, Trump explains why he is so close to Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who has curbed the free media and put tens of thousands of people behind bars in a crackdown in the wake of a failed 2016 coup attempt.

Trump has also drawn attention for his unusually rosy personal assessments of North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un, China’s leader Xi Jinping, Russian strongman President Vladimir Putin, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and other leaders accused of gruesome human rights abuses.

“I get along very well with Erdogan, even though you’re not supposed to because everyone says, ‘What a horrible guy,'” Trump is heard saying in the interview recorded Jan 22.

“For me, it works out good. I can tell you that the relationships I have, the tougher and meaner they are, the better I get along with them,” he said.

The US president, who has expressed “love” for Kim and lavishly praised Xi while squabbling with his traditional democratic allies in Nato, appeared unsure about the reason for his attraction to such leaders.

“You’ll explain that to me someday, OK?” he asked Woodward. “The easy ones are the ones I maybe don’t like as much, or don’t get along with as much,” he said.